Some conversations stay with you long after the recording ends. This one is like that.
In this special Friday With Friends episode of More Than a Song, I’m joined by worship leader, songwriter, and author Tim Timmons—a voice many of us recognize from songs we’ve sung, but whose story gives those lyrics profound weight.
Tim co-wrote Even If, a song rooted in the kind of faith that trusts God without guaranteed outcomes. That theology isn’t abstract for Tim. Over twenty years ago, he received a terminal cancer diagnosis—and he’s been living out an “even if” faith ever since.
In our conversation, we talk honestly about suffering, grief, and gratitude. We explore how music becomes prayer when words are hard to find, how God’s Word anchors us when faith feels fragile, and how joy and sorrow can coexist without canceling each other out.
If you’ve ever felt worn out by performative faith—or needed permission to bring your real story to Jesus—this conversation is for you.
In this episode, we talk about:
- Why Scripture still matters when life doesn’t make sense
- How suffering strips faith down to what’s real and lasting
- The story behind Tim’s new book, Waking Up Again: A Journey of Grief and Gratitude
- Seeing his story portrayed in I Can Only Imagine 2, and what it was like watching that unfold
- Holding joy and grief together in everyday life
- How music helps us process pain and hope simultaneously as prayers to be sung
- Tim’s personal habits for staying engaged with God’s Word
- A song recommendation you’ll want on repeat (and we’ll be using it for Monday’s episode!)

Waking Up Again
A Journey of Grief and Gratitude
Connect with Tim
I know you’ll want to get to know Tim better.
- Tim’s Website
- Tim’s Podcast 10,000 Minutes
- Tim’s Music on Spotify
- Tim’s Music on Apple
- Tim’s YouTube Channel
- Tim’s Instagram
- Tim’s Facebook
- Tim’s new book, Waking Up Again
Don’t miss the movie, I Can Only Imagine 2
After the breakout success of the song “I Can Only Imagine,” MercyMe’s Bart Millard (John Michael Finley) is living the dream—sold-out arenas, a devoted fan base, and a thriving career. But behind the spotlight, Bart’s past threatens the family he’s built, especially the fragile bond with his son, Sam (Sammy Dell).
When hopeful newcomer Tim Timmons (Milo Ventimiglia, “This Is Us”) joins the band for their biggest tour yet, he unknowingly brings a renewed gratitude to Bart’s life through their unlikely friendship. Bart soon discovers that Tim carries hardships—and secrets—of his own, forcing him to face his past and repair his relationships with Sam and his wife, Shannon (Sophie Skelton), before fame costs him what matters most. Based on the heartfelt true story behind the hit single “Even If,” I CAN ONLY IMAGINE 2 is the inspiring next chapter of faith, family, and finding God in the fire.


